Creative Commons (BY-NC-SA)

[First Sea Lord Randall Bills]

CREATIVE COMMONS (BY-NC-SA)

Catalyst Game Labs wants people to join us in the skies of an alternate 1910. Not simply as observers, but active participants. We want you to leap on board ships as crewmen, helping to expand the breadth and scope of the Leviathans’ world. We want our players to share the game with their friends, create their own websites for their campaigns, write their own fiction, post their house rules, publish ebooks of their own Leviathans-based creations, create crossover systems for running Leviathans using other published (or home-grown) rules sets, or even (in perfect Steampunk style) create a mash-up of Leviathans and your favorite ‘other’ world.

To this end, we’re publishing Leviathans under a Creative Commons license. Details on how this license works are noted below.

LEVIATHANS WEBSITE
The original text and artwork of this website are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License.

View this license.

LEVIATHANS PRODUCTS
Leviathans products (including printed rulebooks/sourcebooks and PDFs) by Catalyst Game Labs are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License. View this license.

What this means is that you are free to copy, share, and remix the text and artwork within these books and PDFs under the following conditions:

1) You do so only for noncommercial purposes;
2) You attribute Catalyst Game Labs (see below);
3) You license any derivatives under the same license.

ATTRIBUTION
When reusing/remixing Creative Commons-licensed Leviathans material, credit must be given to Catalyst Game Labs. Please also provide a link to http://www.monstersinthesky.com

Artwork Credit
We’d like to see our artists get credit if their artwork is re-used (please include a link to the artist’s website).

Doug Chaffee is responsible for all color and black & white illustrations.

J. Lonee is responsible for all orthographics (schematics).

WHAT IF CATALYST LIKES MY WORK?
Catalyst Game Labs will keep an eye on the work done by the Leviathans community. If Catalyst sees something it likes (fiction, art, rules and so on), Catalyst will contact that individual with the possibility of putting the person under contract (if they so wish) so Catalyst can release the material in question as part of the rest of the Leviathans line Catalyst will publish.

[First Sea Lord Randall Bills]

Apologies for deleting the answers to this thread, as well as the "Snakes on a Leviathan" thread. I'm re-structuring, based upon numerous requests in the "What do YOU Want" thread, and it was un-avoidable. Hopefully this expanded section off-sets the inconvenience of the lost threads.

Randall

[Istal Devalis]

Might seem to be a bit obvious, but just in case...

WHAT IF CATALYST LIKES MY WORK?
How does that apply to stuff on this forum? Is the entire forum considered under the license or just the sections under the Creative Commons sections.  If an idea comes up on a different part of the board that would fit into the universe well, I'd hate to see it not considered for future inclusion because it was in the wrong area.

[Administration]

If the work is derived from our CC-licensed work, it needs to be CC-licensed as well.

[First Sea Lord Randall Bills]

Might seem to be a bit obvious, but just in case...

WHAT IF CATALYST LIKES MY WORK?
How does that apply to stuff on this forum? Is the entire forum considered under the license or just the sections under the Creative Commons sections.  If an idea comes up on a different part of the board that would fit into the universe well, I'd hate to see it not considered for future inclusion because it was in the wrong area.

To further clarify, regardless of where an idea is on the site, if we like it and we want to merge it into our universe, we'll contact you and let you know so that you can decide if you want to go down that path or not.

Thanks.


Randall

[StCptMara]

Might seem to be a bit obvious, but just in case...

WHAT IF CATALYST LIKES MY WORK?
How does that apply to stuff on this forum? Is the entire forum considered under the license or just the sections under the Creative Commons sections.  If an idea comes up on a different part of the board that would fit into the universe well, I'd hate to see it not considered for future inclusion because it was in the wrong area.

To further clarify, regardless of where an idea is on the site, if we like it and we want to merge it into our universe, we'll contact you and let you know so that you can decide if you want to go down that path or not.

Thanks.


Randall

Much nicer then Battletech's "If you post it on our site, we can never use it. Post an idea,
and forever kill a concept(unless we were already working on it and have enough imformation to show a judge we were developing it first)!" policy. And definately much
nicer then the policy used at the short-lived and not missed Gleemax of "Everything posted here, even stuff using other game systems not owned by use is our property in perpetuity."

[ColBosch]

BattleTech is a different matter entirely, as it's a) owned by a different company, and b) [see below].


Edited.

[Worktroll]

And unfortunately that policy has been forced on Catalyst by actions beyond its control, that I don't intend to allow discussion of here. With FASA's history of litigation issues in its inheritance, can you blame CGL for not wanting to get tied up in similar hassles?

[Trenchknife]

I try not to remember all the litigation stuff Battletech has had to endure...keeps me in a happy place.

[Lord Cameron]

post their house rules...

WHAT IF CATALYST LIKES MY WORK?
Catalyst Game Labs will keep an eye on the work done by the Leviathans community. If Catalyst sees something it likes (fiction, art, rules and so on), Catalyst will contact that individual with the possibility of putting the person under contract (if they so wish) so Catalyst can release the material in question as part of the rest of the Leviathans line Catalyst will publish.

Suppose that there are some rules tweaks suggested, is it a possibility that there can be some changes in the box set, or is it already set in stone?

Also, suppose that I want to try out some different ships (Russian, Turkish etc) or different rules is that allowed as a CGL agent?
(Because we are not supposed to use "House Rules" or is that only for CBT?)

[Worktroll]

1) The existing Lieutenant, Commander and Captain game manuals have been extensively playtested, and are pretty close to in-print condition. However, that doesn't preclude changes to products not yet produced.

2) In your home games, do whatever you want! But when conducting games as a CGL agent, you should stick to the published rules, so that everyone's "reading from the same book".

W.

[Lord Cameron]

2) In your home games

I don't have home games anymore. 

[OdysseySlipways]

what about models of the vessels? how would that fit in to all of this? would be between the the ships desinger and me?

now I see about the PDF files and so forth and haven't had a chance to try to download anything yet (dreading the though via dial-up), so i am wondering, is this a table top game or more of a online, on-going story?

[Worktroll]

OdyessySlipways,

I'm not quite sure on your question, so I hope this answers some/all of it.

Leviathans is at heart a tabletop game. We'll be releasing a box set with (according to plan) printed maps, and 8 plastic miniature leviathans with bases and associated counters. The minis will be from 2" to 5" in size depending on leviathan type. In the meantime, while juggling the need for superb minis vs. affordable cost, we've released the basic "quick-start" game in PDF form. People then print the rules, which come with some paper counters (hard to download minis at the moment) and small-scale maps, and can then play the game.

The Creative Commons licence means (for example) you'd be free to invent your own ships if you felt like it, as long as you gave CGL the appropriate credit for inventing the game, and as long as you didn't try to charge anyone for anything. This is effectively the same as with one of CGL's other games, BattleTech, which has a 25-year tradition of people creating and sharing their own designs.

W.

[Decivre]

I have noticed that Leviathans is being handled slightly different from its Creative Commons counterpart, Eclipse Phase. Unlike the latter, it is nearly impossible to find the free copies of the books on the net. On the other hand, I can go to Demonoid or any number of other torrent sites to find a copy of Eclipse Phase, or any of its released material. The difficulty to find these files means that it isn't nearly as distributable as the latter. Whereas with EP, I can tell people where to get a free copy to check the game out, the same cannot be said for Leviathans.

Shouldn't we make these files more accessible to get the advantages that the Creative Commons license allows?